Hands-on: LockOn Flaming Cliffs 2.0

Started by Rivvern_, March 27, 2010, 07:57:04

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h.kan

http://forums.eagle.ru/showthread.php?t=51220

Wags has given me the ok to discuss this, so I'd like to bring you up to speed on what has been done with missiles and ECM.

ECM:

15s start-up any time you power the ECM on
Burn through moved out
25-28nm for fighters with older ECM
23-24nm for fighters with newer ECM
12nm for strategic and tactical bombers featuring powerful ECM sets

Missiles:

Fuzes have been given more realistic triggering distances - the most powerful are the AIM-120 and R-77.
Speeds and ranges have been adjusted to create a good relative representation of these missiles with respect to each other based on real data and corroboration from people in the know. AIM-9 has specifically been significantly sped up, and is almost equal in range and speed to the R-73. This adjustment was done according to RL speed-time-altitude charts for the AIM-9L. For radar guided missiles, the basic range setup is: AIM-7/R-27R < R-77/AIM-120B < AIM-120C < R-27ER.
ARH missiles will now track down to very low altitude. No more <10m safe zone.
Very significant resistance of radar missiles to chaff unless you put them on your 3-9.
Chaff resistance is AIM-120C > Other ARH > SARH
Reduced seeker gimbal limits for radar missiles. Again, here ARH are better than SARH.
Heat Seekers will not search for targets if launched without a seeker lock. This means launching any heat-seeker without seeker lock will cause that missile to be wasted
You must now hold the trigger for a short time in order for a missile to launch
The missile proximity fuze is inhibited for a very short time when the missile launches.

AI changes:

AI will now notch with an accuracy corresponding to their skill. This means that while an excellent AI can lose most of your missiles, an average AI will most likely be hit. While the note on this may be short, the change in gameplay is big.


Basic Aircraft changes:

F-15C now has an IFF HUD cue for the PDT/STT target
The MiG-29C will now have a default payload of 6xR-77
Aircraft flight models adjusted to conform as much as possible to their realistic climb and acceleration capabilities, as well as turning ability.
MiG-29C should turn better than in FC1
F-15C now has an energy model based on the -220 engines.
All flyable fighter aircraft will now be able to go supersonic with their full payload. The exact top speed depends on what you hang on your wings.
Realistic G-Loc model returned to be more realistic. You can sustain a medium to high-g battle for a long time, but if you abuse it and try to hold 8+ for long you're in trouble. Doing a 'g-warm up exercise' for 15-20 sec at 5g or so will better prepare you for a high-g fight, increasing your tolerance to high-g for a few minutes.


What is the effect effect of these changes on game play?

In general, the idea was to encourage a player to turn away from a missile in order to defeat it.
You will notice changes in how missiles behave with respect to chaff especially. For SARH, I would recommend to launch salvoes of two missiles; chaff is not likely to decoy both of them. The best defense is a notch and orthogonal roll, but this means the defender gives up the fight and the attacker has complete advantage - as it should be.
Aircraft using SARH vs. ARH equipped aircraft will naturally be at disadvantage, however the notch and otherwise beaming ARH missiles and using decoys at an appropriate distance will work.
The longer fuzes mean that maneuvering to dodge the missiles kinematically is now riskier.

The best chances of survival are a combination of beaming, maneuvering and countermeasures.

Note that I am not talking about long-ranged shots, as those tend to be easier to defeat.


I'd like to add that Wags, Yoda and myself campaigned to get much more robust counter-measure rejection (chaff resistance, performance, pk, anything else you'd like to call it  ) for SARH missiles in order to not make things both more realistic and not so horribly lopsided. There may have been others but I don't hear and know everything.

You will find that SARH chaff-resistance is such that someone who could before easily chaff away all your missiles, will have to try extremely hard to decoy just half of them. Note that this is for head-on or near-head-on engagements.

Overall, all these changes, including visibility as well, will mean that the BVR engagements will now be moved further out. In addition, most BVR kills will now be beyond visual range in terms of simple head to head engagements, especially at medium and high altitude.

Rivvern_


Horizon

Många intressanta förändringar, ska bli kul att testa! Härligt att Lock On som från början kanske inte blev exakt vad vi hade hoppats på, nu har förändrats och förädlats till det bättre. Snart kanske vi till och med har en dynamisk kampanj? :)
We're standing here by the abyss, and the world is in flames
Two star-crossed lovers reaching out, to the beast with many names

h.kan

#19
För den late coagar ägaren (jag) finns en nästan färdig profil här http://forums.eagle.ru/showthread.php?p=864378#post864378

Eller den här optimerad för F15 http://forums.eagle.ru/showthread.php?t=51661

ctrl

Så har ni testat att köra tillsammans med BS ännu?

Vore coolt att kunna hitta mål med helikoptern och sen kalla in flygplan för att slå ut dem...
Control
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Oden

Tror det behövs en patch innan man kan blanda ihop BS och FC2 - men jag har haft fel förr.

btw Ctrl, ge oss lite mat om BMS4!  ;D

ctrl

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Horizon

We're standing here by the abyss, and the world is in flames
Two star-crossed lovers reaching out, to the beast with many names